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Hi All,

I've been contemplating how best to make sure users don't buy Flirc is it doesn't suit their needs, equally encouraging them to buy it if it does.

To this end I think it would be a great idea to involve the great community here on the forums so you can chime in with your pro's and cons.

Ideally i'm trying to make it easy to skim through and read so request we all use the same basic template:

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(Your remote control)

Pros

+ (insert text here)

+ (insert text here)

+ (insert text here)

Cons

- (insert text here)

- (insert text here)

- (insert text here)

Overall

A sentence or two to summaries your opinion of Flirc

Giving something to easily read through.

Note: This isn't a requests, support or questions thread - please start a new thread for these. Any posts will be moved out by Myself, Jason or Digitalb0y

Pleasant regards,

Chris

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I'll go first :)

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Harmony 300

Pros

+ Easy to set up

+ I'm able to control way more functions of XBMC with it.

+ Great signal reception

Cons

- Repeat rate isn't as smooth as possible, i.e. when a key is held down for an extended amount of time sometimes it will go too far. There is a request for this to be tweaked ()

Overall

I think Flirc is great - very happy with my purchase. Way better than the other receivers I tried (including HP receiver for MCE remotes).

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Harmony One with TV Profile Samsung LN46C650L1F

Pros

+ Config stored on the Flirc itself. No config should be needed on the respective PC/Mac.

+ Can be used with any remote (a programmable remote as Harmony etc is not needed but still an option)

+ Great signal reception

Cons

- It's advertised that ALL keyboard keys should work but this is not true with current firmware v1. For example are the standard Media Keys not supported (Jason has issued beta firmware for this but it is not yet working )

- If used together with a programmable remote (as Logitech Harmony) it's not very easy to find the most suitable remote profile to use for the Flirc commands. Although recommendations of TV Profiles and additional mappings of the remote keys are available in the forum.

- The config GUI needs some more work to be more user friendly (the third party Windows tool Flirc Utilities solves some of the current weaknesses).

Overall

I believe all current weaknesses are known by the developer and work is done solving most of them. Looking forward to next stable firmware release and the new GUI.

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Universal Remote Controls (URC) RF-20 with generic AUX profile 001

Pros

+ One less remote cluttering up the living room.

+ Ability to map key combinations (useful for creating a 1-press program startup)

+ Functions great in XBMC & Kylo Browser

+ Reception is solid even when plugged into a rear USB port

+ Ability to sleep/wake PC with remote (a work in progress, but very promising!)

+ Rapid support from dedicated users in forums

+ Developer (Jason) takes a personal interest in EVERY user-reported issue

Cons

- Firmware can be buggy depending on your system configuration and operating system; causes aren't currently well known

- Limited stock on hand; sometimes have to wait a couple weeks after ordering to receive a device

Overall

I'm extremely happy with my Flirc. Even after encountering some problems (most can be solved by reading the forums!) I'd still rather use Flirc than anything else. Flirc is a constantly evolving device, with great opportunity for future development. Jason is constantly engaged with the user-base and is committed to developing new features and capabilities. You won't get this level of personalized support with any other device.

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Sky+ remote (popular in Ireland/UK)

Pros

+ Easy to set up, worked straight away once programmed in GUI

+ Great signal reception

+ Good forum - helpful information/feedback from Jason and Chris

+ Family friendly once set up!

Cons

- Delivery was a bit much but now more options available pricewise.

Overall

Delighted with purchase, bought 3 in total for extended family.

Sky+ remote works perfectly now though few buttons had to be reprogrammed twice

(helpful note for people interested -> sky+ remote was reprogrammed as sky+HD remote so not to interfere with other one in same room)

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Just received my order for 4 flircs and started immediately. It took about 15 minutes to install the drivers and programm all the keys. Except for wake up everything worked great the first time.

Since the delivery took nearly three weeks I had plenty of time to prepare. I had already made a keyboard.xls for XBMC, configured the Harmony software and most importantly, I made a list of which button would be assigned to what key and what it does in XBMC.

Also, after reading about ghost button presses, I decided to use a box that was open at both ends. The flirc goes into one, the remote in the other to make sure no unwanted signals would disturb the programming.

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Harmony One (configured as PanasonicTC-P65VT30)

Pros

+ Easy to set up

+ Very good reception

+ More responsive than my MCE IR receiver

+ Can also emulate key combinations

+ Emulates keyboard which means nearly every OS should be able to use it.

Cons

- Wake up button not working (but haven't tested with beta firmware yet)

-> update: got wake up from sleep working using default firmware with any button.

- Software still needs some work (mislabeled backspace key, no build in power buttons in GUI, could use an overview of all assigned keys)

- It's not as snappy as my wireless keyboard. There is a slight delay that's not a nuisance but noticable. I am however not sure that the flirc is at fault here since the MCE receiver I was using earlier had the same delay. Might be caused by the harmony remote or even an unavoidable consequence of using infrared technology. Will test with another remote to find out whether it's the harmony.

Overall

As I expected it's a great device and i am already very happy with it. I was surprised that it took so little time to get it working, after decades of experience with computers I usually expect things NOT to work first time.

I do recommend to browse these forums a bit beforehand to avoid some issues though. Configuring my harmony as a TV instead of MCE device probably saved a lot of time and frustration.

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Onkyo RC-801M

Profile: Samsung DVD

Pros

+ Works with any IR remote. I could control my TV, Receiver and the Dish box with my Onkyo remote. Adding FLIRC to the mix, now I can control the HTPC too with the same remote.

+ Can wake up HTPC from sleep with the remote.

Currently I use a logitech bluetooth keyboard with touchpad to control my HTPC. This works very well as I have full control over the HTPC. However, the bluetooth keyboard cannot wake the HTPC from sleep. With FLIRC, I can wake up and control the HTPC with my Onkyo remote itself. Note that I could get this to work only with beta firmware v6.

+ Buttons can be programmed to peform any function on HTPC.

My remote does not have a page up/ page down button which is useful for navigating long lists. So I programmed the "Next" and "Previous" buttons to perform the page up/ page down function.

Cons

- Not very beginner friendly

The information to correctly setup FLIRC for your remote is strewn across multiple places. For example the main website says "Easy Setup". But there is no link to a setup guide. The FAQ is hidden under the Cross Platform Support page. A lot of information to correctly setup FLIRC is in hidden in the forum posts. There should be troubleshooting guide. The website needs some real reorganization.

- Setup is buggy

The first time I programmed it, FLIRC would respond to the buttons only intermittently. The down arrow would always work. The up and side arrows worked only some time. I though the dongle was a lemon. I reprogrammed everything and did some unplugging, replugging, restarting etc and everything started working.

- Need to find a suitable profile on the remote through trial and error

The forum users have mentioned that the Samsung and Panasonic TV profiles work well with the Harmony remote. However, I have an Onkyo remote. I found through trial and error that the Samsung DVD profile worked better than the TV profile. But finding this is a time consuming process.

Overall

After some initial hiccups, my remote is setup perfectly to have full control over XBMC on my HTPC.

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Vizio XRV1TV 3D

Pros:

+ Incredibly fast and painless setup; I got the device and minutes later had the remote programmed.

+ Great reception from anywhere in the room and from any angle.

+ Can program multiple buttons to do the same keystroke (or different remotes to do the same keystroke) which works perfectly with my setup.

+ It's a pretty inexpensive device, all things considered, and I got mine about a week after ordering it.

+ Did I mention it was easy, and works almost exactly the way I need it to?

Cons:

- I still haven't figured out the wake-from-standby issue, but I haven't tried the beta firmware yet.

- The setup program did work very well, but I noticed a few little bugs I had to work around (phantom button presses getting assigned, random keys getting erased instead of the one I pressed, etc.). Nothing too bad, but slightly irritating.

- There is a limit to the number of recordable buttons, obviously. My remote has a full remote layout and QWERTY keyboard and I was able to program almost all of the buttons, but it still ended up being two or three short (I don't really need an alt key, though...).

Overall

I was looking for good Openelec remote solution for a long time, and the cheap IR receiver I bought a while ago didn't work. I decided that this looked promising, so I ordered it along with the Vizio QWERTY remote (from Amazon for $15). Setup, as I mentioned, was just a little buggy, but once I got it into my HTPC it worked flawlessly. Honestly, I'm thrilled. I should have gotten this sooner. I am so happy with the way it has worked for the past few weeks that I thought I should get on and say something about it. Great product.

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I posted this at the xbmc forums, it probably makes more sense here. The "send keyboard commands" is so on screen keyboard with arrow keys works I found out..

 

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Dish Network remote 21.0 rf/ir + flirc + xbmc = success!

 

I just want to report that I bought a flirc with the idea of using it with my dish network remote, and so far it's awesome.

I do have an issue with the cursor running too fast if I hold down the arrow buttons, but I suspect I can tweak that in xbmc.

But after a lot of fiddling maybe others will find this useful. Here's what I did:

I have my xbmc machine going through a denon AVR to a samsung TV (doesn't really matter what model, but these are what I control), I also have dish network.

The dish remote is a universal learning uhf/ir - but the uhf is really just for dish network. The IR is for everything else. The remote works well for dish, and is set to turn on/off and do volume on my tV. that's the standard dish network thing.

- Keep in mind, if you want to control power and volume on the AVR (not the tv) you can only use the AUX profile. I learned the hard way (lots of button pushing). 

These dish remotes are learning remotes, but they're not fancy save-it-to-your-pc things. You program them by mashing a bunch of buttons.

I used my samsung TV remote's 'stb' and 'dvd' settings to provide codes for the dish remote, think of these as 'virtual' -- these remote codes don't actually control any of my equipment, I just use the codes for flirc and xbmc.

- The dish 21.0 can learn in 'hybrid' mode, which means you enter a code to emulate another remote, and then program the buttons on top of that. That seems the easiest and most attractive, emulate a remote to get a bunch of buttons, and learn the specific ones you want. I tried that and it was troublesome. I went for straight "learning", so I programmed every button.

My procedure was (I wrote this down because if you miss a button you do it ALL AGAIN):

1) Program the 'aux' button (so I can control avr volume and power) - refer to the manual, but from memory it's something like: hold down aux until all buttons light, release it. Hold down "record" until just aux is lit, then go..

2) On the AVR remote (that actually controls my avr) - program these into the dish aux (dish on left, avr on right):
dish power =AVR standby (it is not a toggle, just off)
vol -/+ = volume -/+ (2 buttons)
mute = mute
red = sat/cable (a quick select for dish receiver) the color buttons effectively will turn on the avr, and also select input
green = game2 (for me, quick select for xbmc)
yellow = BD quick select (my ps3)
blue = CD (you get the idea.)

at this point, you can turn the avr off, and turn it on by selecting a color button on the dish remote, and select input. also do volume.... don't stop thought because you must program it all in one go..

3) on tv remote in "tv" mode (which controls my tv)
INPUT = source ---allows me to have the tv select my wii

4) on tv remote, switch to "STB" mode (these don't actually do anything, they just give me codes for flirc.)
use directional arrows and enter on both
info = info 
recall = pre-ch
pause = fav. ch (really ths can be any button that lights up, pause/play were a combined button)
play/ffwd/rewind/stop = same on both
view live tv = 0 button
menu = menu
search = 1

5) I ran out of buttons that light up! So, switched the tv remote to another mode "DVD"
skip forward = play
skip back = stop
page up = ffwd
etc, etc..
I also programmed number keys 0-9 from this 'dvd' mode.

Then, exit out of learning mode. Test out things. I bet you missed AN FING BUTTON! Do it all again..
Now you know why people spend a lot of money on expensive remotes.

however, eventually you'll get it good enough. I didn't manage to program all keys. I missed "record" and "dvr" -but I have plenty I think..

6) Test it on your tv for whatever real buttons exist.

7) program your flirc with all those virtual buttons.

Then go play with xbmc! I also selected "remote sends keyboard" in xbmc settings.. I don't know if that's required, but seemed wise.

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Vizio Smart TV Remote

Pros
+ Super simple Graphical User Interface for easy setup
+ Capable of 160 recorded buttons, programmed in an entire QWERTY keyboard along with arrows and some others.
+ Is programmed in the hardware, so it is moveable between devices without having to be reprogrammed.

+ Usable on multiple Operating Systems, even android. As long as they support basic keyboard inputs, this device can work.

Cons
- Still a few bugs (April 1st 2013), but the biggest one that was limiting programmed keys to 30 instead of the full 160 has been fixed.
- No way to keep track of what remote button is programmed to what key, (yet).
- I only have 1.

Overall
It's an astounding little product that is slowly making its way into every home and business that wants to control a PC-type device with an existing remote. Incredibly easy to use, and eliminates the potential for remote clutter.

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Have had my flirc for a couple of months now and here's my thoughts so far.
 
Remote:
Harmony One with Samsung LN46C650L1F tv device profile.
 
Pros:
+ Cli interface.
+ Detected as hid usb keyboard.
+ Programmable on a pc and transferable to another pc.
+ Config stored on the flirc.
+ Good reception.
+ Good support from Jason.
 
Cons:
- Device is quite buggy. Mine always corrupts config if I edit button settings, meaning I have to completely reprogram all buttons.
- Have never successfully restored a backup config that works.
- No way of knowing the programmed state of the device.
- Logitech Harmony remote profile not easily identifiable.
- Definitely not for newbs yet.
 
Overall:
I have mine setup as I want but I'm reluctant to customise it further due to the amount of work needed to reprogram all buttons.

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Harmony 650

using with built-in Harmony profile

running Lubuntu+XBMC

through a BAFX IR Repeater


Pros
+ Extremely easy to setup and get working

+ Very responsive

+ Great support, very responsive forums

+ Much easier to customize buttons than messing with keymaps, etc

+ Totally platform agnostic and easily swapped to another machine

+ Ongoing development means it's only getting better (and it's great to begin with!)

 

Cons
- Can be difficult to determine what the latest up-to-date information is. Some more advanced information isn't really well organized or consolidated.
- Difficult to add "custom" commands that aren't predefined in the Harmony Flirc profile (I think this being looked into)

 

Overall
I was hesitant to get one because I had tried the standard "MCE IR Receiver" that's usually recommended, with very poor results. My computer case has a built-in IR receiver that gives me ongoing problems. But this was so painless and easy to get working, I was just blown away. I wish I had known about this sooner, it would have saved me a LOT of headaches and time spent messing with LIRC configs, keymaps, etc. It even works great with my IR repeater, so I can stuff my HTPC in a closet, out-of-site.

 

I have not yet been able to get the XBMC plugin to work for programming the Flirc (it's still in beta), but I simply used my windows laptop to program some additional keys, and then plugged it back into my linux machine and it works great because everything is stored on the device itself.

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Logitech Harmony Ultimate

Acer Revo

Flirc with Beta Firmware 

Pros
Saves using a keyboard \ Mouse

looks like a proper device controlled by a proper remote

Cons
amm... 

Overall
It just works - simple, no messing around programming etc with the beta FW

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Onkyo TX-SR606 receiver remote with an Ouya and a USB hub

Beta firmware


Pros

Cheap way to install IR on many home media devices.

Can map functions to almost any button on many remotes.

I was able to switch the Flirc receiver from my Ouya to Macbook Pro's XBMC, and I was still able to use basic functions without re-programming.


Cons

With early firmwares, I had repeating key issues, but it seems to have been resolved

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Onkyo RC-707M (came with HT-R518)

Flirc used on a Macbook Pro and a PS3 next to each other so plugging/unplugging can be done while inserting a disc and doesn't really add effort.

 

Pros

Use your AV-Receiver remote with any device. I really liked mine plus couldn't find an easy way to setup other universal remotes in a way that reproduced the ease of use for controlling my AVR.

Awesome device. Great idea very well executed!

Future proof! USB keyboards are here to stay I guess.

 

Cons

Functionality depends a bit on the remote you want to use (repeating, holding keys). I tried a couple of remote codes for mine and found one that works as I like.

Not expect too much for controlling the PS3, it doesn't take all transporter commands via USB-keyboard. (This is obviously not Flirc's but Sony's fault)

 

Hopes

Love that Jason plans to add support to bind holding a remote key to another key than short pressing it.

 

Overall

Awesome device!

Edited by juramusger

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HP TSGH-IR07

v1.3.6 GUI

 

Pros

+ Good range and responsiveness
+ Keyboard mapping is great
+ USB makes it future-proof
 
Cons
- Took ages to get working with Windows Media Centre but now seems great, see here for my experiences
- Doesn't seem to support multi tap (e.g. for using number keys to enter text)
 
Overall
A bit of a pain to setup (especially having to use EventGhost for some commands) but now seems to be working well
Edited by rockgatherer97

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The remote from my Samsung E7000 TV.

GUI 1.3.6

OS: Ubuntu 14.04 / 16 daily

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Pros
+ Cheap (I already had the remote)

+ With Linux it is very easy to bind key combinations to commands. So red [A] on my remote now triggers ~/scripts/suspend.sh which suspends my HTPC, blue [D] triggers ~/scripts/toggle-audio.sh which switches audio from HDMI to analog out.

Cons

- Both TV and Flirc receives the command since the remote has TV- / VCR-modifier buttons. I.e. I have to use "dead keys" on the remote. E.g. the red [A] does nothing when my TV is put into HDMI-source mode.

 

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Well behind of the pack, I just got mine. Ubuntu 14.04 running Kodi. Literally plug and play. I already had an old MCE Remote (Original Microsoft)

I was up and running in 5 minutes!

Beats breaking out the BT keyboard to operate Kodi. Works like a charm.  Wished I had gotten this years ago.

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I would purchase something else... not impressed with the support or communication from the developers regarding issues

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