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I have solved the problem by using the USB Infrared Toy v2 which costs about 20,- US$. Link to this page and select the USB Infrared Toy: http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=52 another address, where you can buy it is http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/usb-infrared-toy-v2-p-831.html?cPath=174 The software I used can be found here: The IR Scrutinizer software is a bit more than most IR Toy users will want, but it does solve the immediate issue of capturing multi-part signals using the IR Toy. You can fetch it here: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=12313 Discussion/help here: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14986 With this IR Toy, I was able, to determine all ir signals of all my remote controls. I hope, this info ist usefull. pope5

@ yawor thank you for your information. I didn't know this database. pope5

@ Nobuddy0816 not all media hardware can be controlled via the network. Either it is not up to date (I have an LCD which is 4 year old which has no tcp connector) or doesn't have a network connection at all. However they still do have only an IR receiver. And that is the reason why android tablets with ir booster and the necessary apps are very usefull. Especially, when you have an app, which allows different remote controls to be represented on a single page (like RCoid - see google playstore). Then you have only one app and can control all important functions of your LCD, sat receiver, av receiver, bd player and media player. The drawback is, that you need the ir code to build such an remote control. And I believed, FLIRC is able to receive ir beams from different remote controls and thus could alternatively show a hex code, like shown in LIRC databases (which in turn are needed by the ir apps) E.g. in this database: http://winlirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ And, if this would be possible, finally I can imagine that you could even connect the Flirc stick to your tablet and enter the code directly into the ir app. pope5

@nobuddy0816 There are some Android devices with infrared boosters and there are diffent apps, which allow to build your individual remote control. However, you need to know the ir code to be sent. And that cannot be determined by the andriod devices. So I was looking for a way to determine this and believed, that flirc could be extented, to do this. In the meantime I found a small module, which can record the ir beams. Look here: http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/USB_Infrared_Toy Perhaps this is an idea for Jason. His stick is much more handy! pope5

Jason and Chris please ..... help Thank you pope5

Jason, didn't I read anywere, that the source codefor flirc is open source? Or can you send me the source code, that I can try to find a way, to get a solution for my own? And please tell me, if I am right, that your flirc stick is able to receive the ir signals as I think. Or is there something I do not see correctly? I hope, that I do not nerve you with all my questions. Thank you agin for your patience and your help. pope5

I want to use the app RCOID - URL https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.harrygr.rcoid There are many remote control apps, that allow an individual definition of the buttons - and consequently the code for the ir beam. Some of them point to a database (e.g. http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes), where the codes are stored. But thoug there are 60000 remote controls listed, I have two, which are not. As I have been told by the author of RCOID the format of the codes stored for each key comes from Samsung. Formerly, this code was used by the smartphone to send the ir beam. Since Android 4.4 it is minimal different. The above code I mentioned in my former mail indicates: 38000 is the frequency in Hz. Then the signal beginns. 168 impulses are sent. Then there is pause acording to 169 impulses. Then 21 impulses are sent and then there is a pause of 64 pulses. etc. In my opinion, the flirc stick must see these impulses and the program should write these values to the screen. Of course, this is quite a lot of work (if you can't copy and paste), to enter these values (or converted values) into the app. But when the values your program shows are clear, I am shure, the author of RCOID will find a way, to take over the values into the apropriate key within his app. I also can imagine, that I attach the flirc stick with an apropriate cable to my tablet and there will be an app, which displays the code for a key of the remote control. Then one could copy the value and past it into RCOID. Thank you for your help. pope5

I just tried again to pair my Samsung Galaxy with running remote control app with flirc. First I selected "clear configuration". Then I selected the full keyboard, klicked the key "1! (got the Message press the button to be paiered with "1). And then I pressed the "1" on the remote control app4. But nothing happens. Then I pressed the "1" on the smartphone some more times and then I got a window from flirc with the text "Button already exists." and the possibility with cancel or redo. When I click redo, the window comes again (without any more action from me). When I klick cancel I can try another key. But this has the same effect, except, that the error windows comes up directly after the first press on the smartphone. One more interesting thing. I also have a tablet with an ir booster. Also there I have a remote control app. And when I pair some keys with flirc, this works as expected. Now, the question comes up: is the ir booster of the smartphone working at all. Yes it works, because I can control my Samsung LCD with the smartphone. If you have any questions, let me know, that I can help you. pope5 (I run Gui 1.2.6 and Firmware v2.6)

Those apps which allow an individual configuration of the remote control, need a string to be entered, which represents the ir signal. So I think, this would be a similar value, as flirc receives. As I mentioned in my last reply, I see for a button in the app a value like 38000,168,169,3x(21,64),5x(21,22),3x(21,64),5x(21,22),3x(21,64),3x(21,22),5x(21,64),21,1 This value apparently is used, to send the ir beam like the original remote control. Are the values, you receive by flirc similar? Or do you see a similarity between these values ant that, what you receive into such a string? If we would recognize a similarity, flirc could be used for all thise apps to get the appropriate value. And you could generate your own remote control, even if the codes are not known. And that is it, what i meant, when I wrote ...this would be a totally new usage of flirc. regards pope5

Hello, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 which also has an ir booster. When I install an app, which uses the ir booster to control my Samsung LCD TV, this works. When I then use my Galaxy to pair some keys with flirc, flirc does not recognize any key. When I take the original Samung remote control flirc recognizes the keys. Is there a difference between the original remote control and the Galaxy? Thank you for your answer. pope5

Jason, may I ask again, if you can provide an option or even a simple program, which shows the code, the usb stick receives when a remote control key is pressed? This code is the uncompressed code and perhaps, can be converted into the code needed by ir remote control apps. The definition for an app on my Samsung Galaxy S4 for the key to increase the loudness on my Samsung LCD TV reads: 38000,168,169,21,64,21,64,21,64,21,22,21,22.... (it is a very long string) Thank you for your reply. Pope5

Can't you output the code you receive before you compress it. Always only one key. (thats a new function in the GUI). Of course, this value must be converted into the code stored by IR apps. But perhaps there is a rule, how the code received by the original remote control must be converted. And I do not see, that for this solution, there must be another model. Already this model receives an IR code and should simply display it. regards pope5

When I pair some keys with Flirc, the config file is very small. E.g. 0x29 bytes and begins with the following hex string: 0029 B300 05F0 5152 E500... when I pair more keys, the config gets longer e.g. 0x8F bytes but the first bytes are identical. So, the new keys seem to be appended. Shall I append onyl one key after the other, to learn, what is stored in the config? What I want to know is, how is the code stored, that I could extract the IR signal for the IR app on my tablet. Is there no documentation - or isn't there the source code available, where I can extract this info? There would be a new market for the flirc for all those users with an tablet or smartphone with IR buster. Of course, then we customers would need an app which shows the ir code received, that we can transfer it to the IR app. Thank you for your reply. pope5

ok, now I found my mistake. I selected in the GUI the Windows Media Keyboard. There is a stop key (filled squared rectangle) and a play key (filled arrow to the right). And my remote control, I use, also has two keys with those symbols. Therefore I paired them. However VLC need the key "s" to stop playing. And therefore it didn't work. Now I loaded the full keyboard, selected the "s" and paired it with the stop key on my remote control. And now I can stop the VLC playing. And one more thing: when I want to pair a "z" with a key, I have to use the "y" key and not the z on a German keyboard! On German keyboards y and z are exchanged. This seems to be not respected by the GUI. Thank you for your help pope5

Hello, there are some tablets on the market, that are equipped with an infrared blaster to work as an universal remote control. Then there are some apps, which allow to specify, which keys are to be shown on the tablet and which signals should be sent by the infrared interface, when the key is pressed. Unfortunately, not all remote controls are defined for those apps. My idea is, that Flirc can record, which signal is sent by the original remote control and can report it in a file or simply to the screen. Even the flirc configuration file (probably) has this information stored in it. Is there a way, to extract the information from that file, which key sends which infrared signal? That would be great, because then, any unkown remote control could be used for those apps which allow an individual configuration. Here are the links to 2 apps, which can be found in the google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.harrygr.rcoid (RCoid - IR Fernbedienung) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freeirtv (IR Universal Remote) Thank you for your help. pope5