ok, well thanks for trying. In the flirc full keyboard when I push up it lights up the up arrow green. When I push the page up button it lights up the up arrow green. some how they're bound together in the flirc software. Same goes for the down arrow and page down. As for altering the activity. I did that in the harmony software, buttons. I believe that's what you're referring to? I followed the zen https://support.flirc.tv/hc/en-us page and did as it says, but it still failed. I gave the menu button the ContextMenu command, and I gave ch + - buttons the page up and page down commands. Synced and nothing. Then tried remapping them and at one point it worked. but then it just decided it didn't want to do it any more. When I checked in the flirc full keyboard, it was back to the above behaviour of being bound together. I thought I'd just remap all the buttons in flirc. So I cleared it all. then started with the up arrow and page up, but didn't matter, they were still linked together. So it would have been pointless to keep going with it. If you have any other ideas, or if anyone else with experience with this remote and situation has anything to add. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.